[BigbysBackhand]

In my previous post I was trying to answer the question of what laws need be enforced, and how can we implement those punishments without being so harsh on brand new players to this setting. I am all for slavery and perma -death, and in my post that was the point of the three strikes they lead to one of those two options for the minor crimes, with the major crimes leading to further RP through player held and DM supervised trials. As a player who rose through the ranks of the legion enforcing various whims along the way and certain edicts passed down by superiors I understand the difficulty in enforcing the three strikes system. But we must also keep in mind not everyone who joins our server knows the background right away, or joins these forums maybe for several days or weeks after creation…if at all. Nor do those of us who have go and read every post that is here. The three strikes was a solution to this, and it leads to further involvement with each other as legion members and players as a whole. The difficulty in this matter is what police officers have always faced lack of intercommunication and jurisdiction as legionnaires are our police force so to speak they will face the same problems but those issues can be resolved through RP. While I myself am not a designer or developer of this PW there are various scripts running all over Thay at once, and while I do not know how I don’t see why an item like that could mark a person as a criminal to other PC’s with a like item in this case other legionnaires…sort of like an arrest record, barring this…We have journals on every PC and bulletin boards in the legion barracks that rarely get used.

I am not in disagreement with the harshness of our server in any way, I have no qualms with the slavery system or perma- death or even Red Wizards using their spells on PC’s to get their points across. However from my understanding the topic for this thread is what laws do we want and how do we go about enforcing them.

“Note though that this is just the initial phase of implementing a more defined and written set of laws for Thay. This thread is to be used to provide a broad platform of ideals and recommendations that I and the staff will do our best to refine and officially introduce in-game. So please be aware that while any and all comments are appreciated in regard to firming up how the ‘law’ is implemented and will affect the lives of everyone in-game; not all of the suggestions or ideas presented here may be selected to represent the initial implementation of a more robust in-game system of law, crime, and punishment.” ~Thayan~

If we say the laws shouldn’t be defined because it’s not in the lore we must remember this is our take on Thay while the lore is a driving force behind this server it does not define us as it is a PW and we all affect it in our own ways. Thus my Introduction of the three strikes system for the laws we do define. I in no way want this to be turned into an argument or any other conflict of course between players but I do support the idea of a –written down- code of laws on the basis that the server is in need of one to help introduce any and all new players to our world, even if it’s just a section in every ones player guide.

Laws I think that should be punished in some way either through the strike system or other ways:

Murder of a PC: instant 3 strikes Public trial to be judged by our own PC Red Wizards in a sort of tribunal, or high enough ranking PC’s IE: Tribunes in the Tharch involved or High enough Ranking Clergy if no Reds are available, this to be overseen by a DM who can move the guilty party to Oblivion if a death sentence is called for.

Murder of a slave PC: instant 3 strikes counted as theft and the initial buying price of the slave to be repaid along with the enslavement of the offending PC.

Assault of a Red Wizard or High enough ranking member in other faction by one of equal rank: to be settled amongst themselves, with death or enslavement or other various punishments the result of said conflict. However if the two people involved are not red wizards can be brought before one to be settled in whatever manner the Red deems fit.

Assault by a Red Wizard or other High Ranking Member of various faction on one who is lower: Not a crime, however can be brought up before a red if the assaulted is not of the same faction as the assaulter…ie: a High ranking priest of Cyric assaults a lower ranking priest of Tyr. The red wizard has final judgment in said matter, and based on our PW could find the priest of Tyr to be in the wrong just for being a priest of Tyr :P

Theft: one strike, fine to be determined based on item stolen rank of the person who was stolen from allegiance with the thieves guild by said thief ect… return of item.

Assault on a commoner or low ranking member by one of equal rank: one strike and a fine if caught in the act only, otherwise not considered a crime.

Lack of respect to a Red Wizard: to be at the discretion of the offended Red

Lack of Respect to a High Ranking member of various faction: to be at the discretion of Ranking Member

Assault of a Red Wizard or other High enough Ranking Member in whatever faction, by one who is lower in status: instant 3 strikes Slavery, Death, or other inventive punishment to be determined by the offended ranking person.

//in these 3 cases I trust that only veteran players could have risen to said ranks and have the maturity and experience to treat the offending party in a manner fitting to the other persons experience on our server as I have already seen done by our current reds//

Other various laws left to be determined or left vague depending on our community and DM’s to leave room for various bribes/extortions and what have you to help stay consistent to the founding lore ect ect.