[TheShadowEntity]

I would like to point out that as a way to argue that they will not strut around naked one member of the player-base has chosen to strut around naked...


Since this seems to be being pushed through despite my urging i would like to say that i hope we will be able to keep the old look as well. Sila has several ribbon outfits that would suddenly become topless outfits with no way to recover the look if this went through without keeping the old meshes as well.

[Balanor]

I believe those 'cottage cheese' parts were intended to simulate Yuan-Ti characters by whoever originally created the clothing parts. And yes, while I could -and probably should- change the 'is naked' script to look for clothing that has certain parts as demonstrated by Wids and pointed out by others, that too is not a real high priority as it is something I hope people are voluntarily not trying to take advantage of.

[TheShadowEntity]

Could also be that Corella has some real bad cellulite..

[Bela]

While I understand Shadow Enitities concerns, and can see the point Wids is making, I think we are all grown up enough not to abuse these new looks that may be implemented, I chose the 'yes' vote and believe that at least the player base we have now will duly respect the nudity. In RL...you are not going to walk around town or neighbourhoods naked. (unless your deranged lol,,Wids ;))

If this does happen, we as the player base can control those characters that may chose to parade skyclad by responding to them IC'ly.

And as Purulent Carcass and Sundraio pointed out, if the offending nudist does not comply to re-dressing we use their sweet spots for target practice. ;D

[Animayhem]

Exposure would exist with this hak or not.

Right now, there is a glitch in the NWN grapics engine which can cause headless npc, just capes walking around and nude npcs. The npc's which seem to occasionally appear naked seem to be legionniares.

When you die and go to the fugue you are naked. Sometimes you are by yourself and sometimes maybe others. If your body and items are taken by fellow adventures to be raised at a temple, you will be naked in front of others.

If you die and return to the fugue and are not able to get any clothing and your horse died, you may have to make a quick streak to the vault and hope you have clothes there.

In regards to the ribbon aka band-aid top Shadow was referring to, I belive that is a standard top option, if some how it goes away, there still is the vest with chain option and also a longer drape top.

As for some concerns about jiggly puffs, some tops do cause that effect already.

Another option for public nakedness could be in going to baths or spas where some would feel if I want to get clean, I need to get naked. However if someone is with you and does not feel comfortable then it is easy to have a "bathing suit made"
Marister is of the Mother and is not ashamed of his body however he knows that when he is not in the wilds he needs minimal covering at least so he carries a bathing suit with him for such occasions.


As mentioned this place has shown a great maturity by not abusing nudity. Also keep in mind that this is not real and images are pixels on a screen. If a player does not feel comfortable please let those who you are with know upfront. Like hairy chests, nakedness can be emoted without being exposed.

[Wids]

I would like to point out that as a way to argue that they will not strut around naked one member of the player-base has chosen to strut around naked...

Seriously? I throw up one picture show depicting the differences between Bioware nudes and tailor nudes, and suddenly I'm a rampant streaker?

If there's a word for people who see bubonic plague every time they find a flea in their carpet, I'd like to know what it is.

I believe those 'cottage cheese' parts were intended to simulate Yuan-Ti characters by whoever originally created the clothing parts.

Huh. Is that why those parts were created? I've wondered about that sometimes. :-/

So what about those roughed-up-looking body parts with the black smudges on them, like Djed's upperarms? Those look like zombie body parts to me; all you need to do is make the skin pale and you've nailed the look.

And yes, while I could -and probably should- change the 'is naked' script to look for clothing that has certain parts as demonstrated by Wids and pointed out by others, that too is not a real high priority as it is something I hope people are voluntarily not trying to take advantage of.

Well, the way I see it, these "nakie bits" have been available through the tailor models for quite a while already. If we did have the sort of player whose characters always behave like the cast of Big Butt Orgy 5, they would have outed themselves by now. I like to think that the bulk of us have more sense (and roleplay consciousness) than that. ;)

While I understand Shadow Enitities concerns, and can see the point Wids is making, I think we are all grown up enough not to abuse these new looks that may be implemented, I chose the 'yes' vote and believe that at least the player base we have now will duly respect the nudity. In RL...you are not going to walk around town or neighbourhoods naked. (unless your deranged lol,,Wids ;))

Hey, it was the Temple of Sharess. Sharess is the Dionysus of the Forgotten Realms. Nude hot tub parties are how Sharessans say, "Hey, hello again! How are the kids?" :P

If this does happen, we as the player base can control those characters that may chose to parade skyclad by responding to them IC'ly.

Mocking ridicule. It always works. ;)

And as Purulent Carcass and Sundraio pointed out, if the offending nudist does not comply to re-dressing we use their sweet spots for target practice. ;D

As if Carcass needs another reason to kickstart a round of PvP. :P

When you die and go to the fugue you are naked. Sometimes you are by yourself and sometimes maybe others. If your body and items are taken by fellow adventures to be raised at a temple, you will be naked in front of others.

That's pretty much why Corella will go to extremes to avoid dying, especially in adventuring parties. "Oh, so that's what you look like under the mask! And your robe. And everything else."

(Sure, she goes maskless for some of her disguises. But it works because she never lets people see her change clothes. "Hi, I'm Superman! 'Where's Clark Kent?' Oh, I sent him to call the Fire Department. So what seems to be the problem?")

If you die and return to the fugue and are not able to get any clothing and your horse died, you may have to make a quick streak to the vault and hope you have clothes there.

Wyren had to do that once after a dust mephit killed her and her horse. But she didn't have any clothes in the vault, so she had to run naked (and stuffless, and almost completely out of spells) about two-dozen leagues through the wilderness before she found her death pack and got all her stuff back. That sucked.

As for some concerns about jiggly puffs, some tops do cause that effect already.

Ha ha..."jiggly puffs." :D

Another option for public nakedness could be in going to baths or spas where some would feel if I want to get clean, I need to get naked. However if someone is with you and does not feel comfortable then it is easy to have a "bathing suit made"
Marister is of the Mother and is not ashamed of his body however he knows that when he is not in the wilds he needs minimal covering at least so he carries a bathing suit with him for such occasions.

Now that you mention it, it's been a while since I bathed any of my characters in that stream outside the Traveler's Sojourn. Considering how much she lingers around a hot cauldron and works with sulfur and other stinky chemicals, Wyren and her robes probably smell pretty rank by now.

As mentioned this place has shown a great maturity by not abusing nudity. Also keep in mind that this is not real and images are pixels on a screen. If a player does not feel comfortable please let those who you are with know upfront. Like hairy chests, nakedness can be emoted without being exposed.

Agreed. But we all know that Marister's chest is as smooth as a baby's butt. Don't lie. :P

[Hellstrom]

I would like to point out that as a way to argue that they will not strut around naked one member of the player-base has chosen to strut around naked...

Um, no. One member of the player base has chosen to strut around naked inside one temple where it could be considered IC to do so in order to point out that it is already possible to strut around naked on the server. And in spite of that, we haven't seen PCs doing it and it hasn't hurt the server to have that option available. To further extend the point one could then argue that this change is not really much of a change at all.

And I found your post very funny Wids :)

Since this seems to be being pushed through despite my urging...

This is not "being pushed through" by any means. This is a vote that is open to all of the player base. Just because you don't like the result of a vote doesn't mean you can characterize it as something being forced on the community or on you.

[Animayhem]

Agreed. But we all know that Marister's chest is as smooth as a baby's butt. Don't lie. :P

Actually it is not. He has a decent amount of dark curly hair on his chest. It is thick but you can still see the skin. He has a thin hair trail going down the middle.

So it sorta looks like a goblet. ;)

[DarkRanger]

If we did have the sort of player whose characters always behave like the cast of Big Butt Orgy 5, they would have outed themselves by now.

Would just like to point out that 5 was the one where they jumped the shark and threw away the entire canon of the series, though the writing for 4 was weaker than the first three it still felt coherent to the general plot arc.

[Wids]

Thank you, Hellstrom! It needed to be said.

(And my post made me laugh too. Does that make me vain? :-/ )

To further extend the point one could then argue that this change is not really much of a change at all.

Two words: Pelvis tattoos. Pelvis tattoos! People think that William Wallace could fart lightning bolts? They ain't seen nothin' yet!

Actually it is not. He has a decent amount of dark curly hair on his chest. It is thick but you can still see the skin. He has a thin hair trail going down the middle.

So it sorta looks like a goblet. ;)

Pfft. He's still not a real man until he has Australia-shaped chest hair like Saxton Hale does. :P

Would just like to point out that 5 was the one where they jumped the shark and threw away the entire canon of the series, though the writing for 4 was weaker than the first three it still felt coherent to the general plot arc.

Dude. Watching porn movies for the plot is like going to a football game to see which player looks the most stylish in a jersey. :P

(That said, I agree with you. Big Butt Orgy 5's side arc with the sex robot was pure distraction; that part should have been left on the cutting room floor. And I guess the whole series started going downhill after Biff McBeef left the team and Tyson Stone came aboard; Stone's acting is so wooden that you could build a table out of it. ;) )